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Unread 07-29-2010, 09:30 PM   #31
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Aaahhhh, you were just bored now that you aren't havin' to fuss with the 928. Hmm, what can I replace...
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I was originally looking at the air-cooled cars because I knew I wanted a 911, but not which one. At some point I realized that you could get a 996 for fewer dollars than a 993, so I figured it was a no-brainer and don't regret my decision for a second.
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that makes 2 of us now. i wanted something me little more up to date than 1970's look andVW technology. I wanted a real porsche.. Not a VW spin off. Thus why i had a 928 for years... Until they finally came out with thier OWN 911
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Johnny, the 993s are great cars but so are the 996s and 997s. What are you wanting to use the car for--a daily driver, a weekend cruiser, a track toy? That's probably the first question you need to ask yourself. We like answering questions if you need help!
jake you know the old addage, buy the newest you can afford, i love my 996, but i didn't do my homework before i bought it, now they tell me the 997 is the better model of the two, i don't drive mine everyday, i don't drive it in the rain, but i drive it quite a bit, i have a trophy shop & the h2 doesn't get good enough gas mileage to drive all the time, but it will fit more trophies than the porsche, i looked at some older models like the 993 but i couldn't see paying more for a car that didn't have the colder air, nicer interior, better ride, not quite as much hp, i guess i wanted something that i thought i could take a long trip in & it would be more dependable & more modern technology i guess is the word i'm looking for, i guess i wanted the newer options, but i do like the widebodies look alot better, i didn't really like the look of the plain old 996, i had to put the rims & wing on it, to me it doesn't look like a sports car if you don't mod it, imho, now i've been lookin at some vipers, don't know much about them either, but i just like nice cars, doesn't have to be any certain model or make, i've definitely learned a lil' bit being on the porsche forums. thx
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This "joke" (put down) has been around since 1976 when the first 924s were delivered. Every 924, 928, 931, 944, 951, 968, 986 (Boxster), 987 (Boxster and Cayman), Cayenne, 996 MkI and 996 MkII and I am sure many a 997 owner has heard the "joke" at least once. I wonder if 959 and Carrera GT owners are told they don't own a real Porsche?
I was at an official Porsche Concours event many years ago. I overheard (he was speaking in very loud voice) a Speedster owner demanding that the officials ban and remove a 968 that had been entered in the same event as his Speedster, because it was not a "real Porsche."
I have seen many a water-pumper owner isolated at Porsche events, told to park away from the air-cooled brigade.
It may seem to some to be a "joke" but sadly to many it's not, they are serious.
However, the best "joke" of all is that had Studebaker not backed out at the last minute, the second Porsche model in production after the 356 would have been a 4-door, front water-cooled engine, sedan. It's possible the 356 would have been the first and last air-cooled Porsche. However, it didn't work out that way and air-cooled in one model range only, lasted from 1963 to 1998 until it to switched to water-cooled engines, and it's been that way for the past 10 plus years. I think many are just going to have to get used it because water-cooled and 911 are joined together at the hip and air-cooled is now an historical perspective.
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+1, great post gyro, i hope some of the (REAL PORSCHE) guys see it, but i doubt they will get it! they will go to their grave belivin what they believe
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I was originally looking at the air-cooled cars because I knew I wanted a 911, but not which one. At some point I realized that you could get a 996 for fewer dollars than a 993, so I figured it was a no-brainer and don't regret my decision for a second.
jake, thats pretty much what happened to me, both were side by side & the 996 had less miles & more modern & a lil' less money so why not get it, i thought it was a real 911, but i hate when someone thinks thats all you could afford so you got a 996, the total amount didn't really matter, i just thought for the price of the two i thought it was a better deal, i'm going for the 60,000 mile tune up tomorrow, do i need to get everything done, or is there certain things that are a must, like plugs, coils, fluids etc... thx, hey you said you like to answer questions!
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The fastest race cars and the fastest street cars Porsche has ever produced have one thing in common, they are all water-cooled. Some moldy figs may not like to hear that fact but it's true.

Porsche has a great history of air cooled cars, but it is just that "a history". Like it or not air cooling is a part of Porsche's past that will probably never return.

I like many of the older air-cooled Porsche's but I also like the new cars. I never could understand those enthusiasts who could never see past the air-cooled cars.

Different strokes I guess.
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The fastest race cars and the fastest street cars Porsche has ever produced have one thing in common, they are all water-cooled. Some moldy figs may not like to hear that fact but it's true.

Porsche has a great history of air cooled cars, but it is just that "a history". Like it or not air cooling is a part of Porsche's past that will probably never return.

I like many of the older air-cooled Porsche's but I also like the new cars. I never could understand those enthusiasts who could never see past the air-cooled cars.

Different strokes I guess.
ray, your rite on, i didn't know they were the fastest race cars though, i knew the newer models had more hp, thats one thing when i was looking at them is why i bought the 996, it had more hp than the older one i was looking at & definitely better air, i didn't realize most of the early models didn't have much hp around 262-282, when i thought of porsche i always thought they had lots of hp, you can get alot of new cars now off the lot with 400-500 hp.
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As early as 1976 Porsche was evolving towards superior water cooling in the race cars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_935

"After the second race, the CSI rule makers insisted that the whale tail hood of the road-going 930 must fit on the race car. The air-to-air intercooler setup under the rear hood had to be altered to a more compact air-to-water layout, which cost Porsche several weeks of testing and half a Million Deutsche Mark.[6]"
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Nothing like blowing a lot of hot air.... to slow you down.


Machbx is Awesome Sauce w/bitch sprinkles and a 996. And your air-cooled is really oil-cooled.
But yes, maybe that whole business w watercooling combustion engines is just a fad that won't take root in the automotive industry. That's crazee talk
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Machbx is Awesome Sauce w/bitch sprinkles and a 996. And your air-cooled is really oil-cooled.
But yes, maybe that whole business w watercooling combustion engines is just a fad that won't take root in the automotive industry. That's crazee talk
and we're off.......
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